Revenge, Remorse, Guilt

Created Date: 12-Jun-2019

and Forgiveness

Last updated: 22-Nov-2024

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Sections

1 Preface 2 A Righteous Victim Gets Rewards
3 Goals in Revenge 4 Does Revenge Satisfy
5 Long Term Consequences / Harboring Revenge 6 Instead of Revenge
7 Remorse and Guilt 8 Wanting Righteous Judgment
9 Forgive Ourselves and Others 10 God Judging of the Fallen Angels and Demons
11 Method to People that may Provoke Revenges 12 Evil Doers become Victims of the Exact same Evil

As a prerequisite to this topic, read the following topics:

  1. If we do not forgive then the people who hurt us will have power over us, and then the full Godly potential of our future is compromised because of lack of forgiveness. 
  2. When we enact revenge on someone then the person we are being revengeful towards will then have hurt us even further.  This is because we are now combining damages to ourselves by being revengeful.   If we enact revenge, then we will fall under God's justice for sinning, and we will suffer from it.  We are to allow God to handle punitive penalties as read in Romans 12:19 and many others.
  3. When there are civil and criminal acts done towards us, we are to use and rely on the governmental processes. 
    (a) Personal note from this author: In some countries and places in the world, there is not fair or adequate governmental agencies to administrate fair consequences, but even in these locations when personal intervention is required, there should not be revenge as a motive.
    (b) This author has been hurt many times in life where there was no legal remedy for loses.  I was amazed, and in awe of God, on how God restored my loses and the penalties received by those who hurt me.
Romans 12:19 Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.

It is possible that you are reading this and have the thought that your pain, suffering and desire for revenge cannot be as great as this author or others.  We absolutely should never compare our Suffering with others which is then judging God with the assumption that God let something evil happened, when we know Suffering is part of the extremely sinful world, along with incorrectly believing that we have suffered more than anyone else. 

Jesus Christ suffered:

  1. Ridicule throughout his childhood and adulthood being called a bastard,
  2. His life had other areas of suffering as described in Isaiah 53.
  3. Hit in the face by the Temple Guards during the mock trials at night.
  4. His beard pulled out of His Face, Isaiah 50:6, to the point of not being recognizable.
  5. Whipped by the Roman soldiers by the device later called the "cat o' nine tails" that usually killed the recipient.
  6. Finally, the Crucifixion with the most extremely painful form of a torturous death.

Every one of us, because of painful experiences, will in our lifetime:

The good news is God, with absolute certainty, will bring people into your life that are Christians, who have experienced your exact same Suffering, and they have conquered the pain and thoughts of revenge, with forgiveness, where they will be there to help you. 

All of us may face different types of horrible Suffering, where for the Christian they will always turn into something known as a painful blessing as God will absolutely not have anything done by the Satanic world have a victory over us provided we do not seek revenge, where all evil actions done to us will have the opposite effect of blessing us now and with rewards at the Judgment Seat of Christ.

Preface

An excerpt from the topic on the Lake of Fire for those who do not have Salvation:

In order for there to be righteous judgment leading to perfect justice / punishment where the penalty and consequences for sins in eternity are:
  1. Excruciating physical pain,
  2. Emotional torment beyond earthly comparison, and
  3. Torture that is not describable,

then the recipient must be able to understand the consequences of receiving the perfect punishment, which only:

  • God is able to administrate.
  • God will make the recipient understand the perfect punishment.

Perfect punishment, (consequences), exists:

This is one of many reasons why we should never seek revenge as God will administrate perfect consequences for correction / repentance of the Christian, and for everyone to know there is the God of the Bible.  God is not mocked (Galatians 6:7), where we don't necessarily see the consequences in everyone's life for sins, but we will understand at the Judgment Seat of Christ and Great White Thrown of Judgment.   All Christians, who are victims of suffering when alive on Earth, have Rewards in Heaven and on Earth.

Jesus Christ's childhood had suffering and his adult life had suffering (Isaiah 53), followed by the torture unto death at the cross was the Restitution Payment which God the Father required for giving perfect judgment.  Jesus Christ took our place in receiving the perfect judgment (the Restitution Payment) so that we can claim Him in our defense to be made righteous by asking for Jesus Christ as our Savior which God sees as the total sin payment, of an individual, has been paid. 

We need to understand that God has suffered by loss of recognition, appreciation, desired fellowship (worship), the pain as God has felt what Jesus Christ felt, and also pain that everyone feels when anyone sins against themselves and others (Matthew 25:40).
 

Most likely everyone wants forgiveness from the times they have hurt others, but then there is difficulty with many of the same people not extending forgiveness to others.   

Five points concerning Revenge:

  1. Revenge is the personal actions taken against someone or a group of people for perceived and real damage done which can be:
    (a) Physical,
    (b) Psychological, and/or
    (c) Absence of denied emotions such as love. 
    The person doing the actions against someone and people is carrying out vengeance, retaliation, reprisal, vindictiveness or retribution, which can collectively be called "revenge".  The revenge is often called the payment for the damage done.  
  2. Remorse is a regretful feeling and a thought because of anything done purposely, accidentally, unknowingly or as an act of revenge.  Remorse can be felt by:
    (a) Someone who caused another person or group to experience pain, when not intending the pain to be caused.
    (b) Someone who retaliated against someone or a group in an act of revenge.
  3. Guilt is the final feeling that the Christian should feel right after Remorse.  The feeling of Guilt will have the Revengeful Person desire to have the ability to go back and stop oneself from doing something wrong.
  4. Forgiveness is what is always required of the Christian, even if the Christian has acted out any types of Revenge.
  5. Unrighteous Vindication can be felt by someone who receives revengeful actions against themselves that can cause them to be satisfied that they initially caused the person acting on revenge to have received pain first.

Often remorse and guilt are followed after revenge because:

The Christian should use the Word of God in all times of desires to have revenge.  When the Christian realizes that God will use all suffering experienced by the Christian, that can even be justified, to become a blessing then the victim of anything done wrong can rejoice. 

Most Christians understand the power in sowing and reaping good, but may not fully understand that sowing and reaping negatively for doing wrong also applies to our lives.  Christians have even begun to call the negative side of consequences, for reaping negatively by acting on revenge, by the Buddhist law of Karma, as it is observed in people's lives so often.

  God administrates righteous compensation to those who hurt others
Romans 12:19 Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.
Hebrews 10:30-31 30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
Revelation 2:23 22 So I will cast her on a bed of suffering, and I will make those who commit adultery with her suffer intensely, unless they repent of her ways. 23 I will strike her children dead. Then all the churches will know that I am he who searches hearts and minds, and I will repay each of you according to your deeds.
  Do Not Repay Evil for Evil
1 Peter 3:9 Do not repay evil for evil or reviling for reviling, but on the contrary, bless, for to this you were called, that you may obtain a blessing.
Matthew 7:12 So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets.  

(This is often called the Golden Rule. which means to always be kind to others.  Do unto others that you would have done unto you which mean being thoughtful, considerate, not taking advantage of someone and much more.  Forgive others as you would want to be forgiven.  When a true Christian has done wrong then he will seek forgiveness and restitution.)

Proverbs 18:21 Death and life are in the power of the tongue, and those who love it will eat its fruits. (Do not speak even evil about someone who have wronged you or if someone did wrong to others.)
  Receive Blessings from God for Repaying Evil with Good
Proverbs 25:21-22 21 If your enemy is hungry, give him food to eat; And if he is thirsty, give him water to drink; 22 For you will heap burning coals on his head, And the LORD will reward you.   

There are even secular quotes that reflect the negative consequences for seeking revenge, where the Christian should adhere to Romans 12:19.

Possibly Confucius
but not verifiable.
"Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves, one of them is for yourself"
1876 book "The Mikado's Empire" - Japanese history "If you call down a curse on any one, look out for two graves."
unknown "Curses, like young chickens, always come home to roost."
1888 "A handbook of Colloquial Japanese" "A curse strikes not only him against whom it is pronounced, but also him who pronounces it."

A Righteous Victim Gets Rewards

All of us will absolutely be the victim multiple times in our lives of something, and this is especially true for the Christian as read in 1 Peter 1:6 and 2 Timothy 3:12 where we will also be tempted to participate in revenge and other sins.  The Christian, whether they know of not, will always be the target of the Satanic Forces in the world.  Fallen Angels and Demons who are the Satanic Forces will use every weapon available, that involves human-beings, and even ourselves to do damage to others and ourselves.  The key to victory is Faith in God to guide, take and overcome everything for you that may even involve experiencing death that will give God and you glory.
 
1 Peter 1:6 2 Count it all joy, my brethren, when ye fall into manifold temptations; 3 knowing that the proving of your faith worketh patience. 4 And let patience have its perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, lacking in nothing.
2 Timothy 3:10-15 10 You, however, know all about my teaching, my way of life, my purpose, faith, patience, love, endurance, 11 persecutions, sufferings what kinds of things happened to me in Antioch, Iconium and Lystra, the persecutions I endured. Yet the Lord rescued me from all of them. 12 In fact, everyone who wants to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted, 13 while evildoers and impostors will go from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived. 14 But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have become convinced of, because you know those from whom you learned it, 15 and how from infancy you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.

The most profound incite to recognize that our desires to obtain something, such as revenge, may actually do us harm and even potentially cause life-long consequences with remorse and loss of RewardsBy participating in any activity that hurts others with the goal of making ourselves happy by others misery, will never accomplish the goals intended. 

Every time we are the victim, we need to recognize that the other person(s), who did anything against you, will never obtain the end result that they wanted.  In fact, God will always intervene in the Christian and non-Christian's life to not let anyone enjoy ill-gotten rewards for very long.  Anything in life that we participate in to get anything wrongly will absolutely turn into a detriment, problem, hindrance and much worse

Thank God for Grace and Mercy for the Christian, but we need to know that the Holy Spirit will guide us in our actions where when we ignore the clear knowledge not to do wrong, then we are circumventing the Grace and Mercy God uses in our lives along with potentially removing the Rewards that we would be receiving from Righteous Suffering.

There is absolutely nothing in our life that we can suffer, even unto death, when not caused by our actions that God will not reward us many times over in the next!  Read the topic on suffering for more details.  Additionally, God will use our sinful actions to our benefit when we respond correctly to correction from the Holy Spirit.

1 Peter 5:8
Be of sober spirit, be on the alert. Your adversary, the devil, prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.
Isaiah 54:14-17 14 "In righteousness you will be established; You will be far from oppression, for you will not fear; And from terror, for it will not come near you. 15 "If anyone fiercely assails you it will not be from Me. Whoever assails you will fall because of you. 16 "Behold, I Myself have created the smith who blows the fire of coals And brings out a weapon for its work; And I have created the destroyer to ruin. 17 no weapon that is fashioned against you shall succeed, and you shall refute every tongue that rises against you in judgment. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD and their vindication from me, declares the LORD.

Goals in Revenge

The main points for seeking revenge are:

all of which puts ourselves in the place of God to judge righteously.

If we want perfect justice, then we must rely upon God to administrate perfect justice.  Perfect justice by God might have God's providence to have justice partially or fully administrated from other human-beings in different forms that can include jail-time, and legal punitive justice that involves financial penalties. 

God is not mocked, and God will 100% and absolutely give perfect justice, with God's Grace and Mercy possibly applied.  No person doing evil against someone else will gain from the action as the absolute and inevitable cost involves suffering in our Early lives along with the possibility of loss of Rewards in Heaven.

God will repay all those who do evil, and it will be in God's perfect timing.  By avoiding the doing of evil and living righteously, we all will reap benefits, and by seeking revenge we lose the blessings.  God will avenge absolutely.

Galatians 6:7 Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap.
1 Peter 3:9 Do not repay evil with evil or insult with insult. On the contrary, repay evil with blessing, because to this you were called so that you may inherit a blessing.
Deuteronomy 32:35 It is mine to avenge; I will repay. In due time their foot will slip; their day of disaster is near and their doom rushes upon them.

Does Revenge Satisfy?

The answer can be "yes" for a very short period of time, which can be as little as a few moments. 

Three earthly perspective problems with seeking revenge:

  1. Revenge always requires an expense of time, money, effort and emotions.  This adds on to the damage that initially was received by the person who is seeking revenge.
  2. Revenge requires a person to temporarily, or for a sustained amount of time, to abandoned worthy and righteous goals.
  3. Revenge makes a person to have to think in negative ways that will always harms oneself.

The best revenge is acting as God would have us to do, which reaps blessings and reward in Eternity.  God will take care of vindication and revenge for you.

Proverbs 25:20-22 20 Like one who takes away a garment on a cold day, or like vinegar poured on a wound, is one who sings songs to a heavy heart. 21 If your enemy is hungry, give him food to eat; if he is thirsty, give him water to drink. 22 In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head, and the LORD will reward you.
Romans 12:17-21 17 Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everyone. 18 If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. 19 Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God s wrath, for it is written: It is mine to avenge; I will repay, says the Lord. 20 On the contrary: If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head. 21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.
Matthew 5:40-45 40 And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well. 41 If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles. 42 Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you. 43 You have heard that it was said, Love your neighbor and hate your enemy. 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.

Long Term Consequences / Harboring Revenge Desire

There are always:

  1. Painful consequences for acting out revenge, because we are putting ourselves in the place of God's role as Judge.
  2. Thoughts, which is unforgiveness, and acting on revenge will cause damage to ourselves when harboring and speaking about revenge.  The damage is:
    (a) Loss of productivity in God's service,
    (b) Collateral and intentional hurting of others because they remind you of someone who hurt you,
    (c) Depression, and
    (d) Loss of rewards in Heaven.

In our lives, revenge can be desired and acted upon because we will:

When acting on revenge, the long-term consequences are:

  1. Revenge will never accomplish the three goals listed in bullet points of Goals of Revenge section.
  2. Revenge will lead to a sense of loss and emptiness that is very difficult to remove because revenge is putting oneself in the place of God who is the Judge of all of us.
  3. Revenge will ultimately give feelings of anger and remorse against one-self for the realization that justification of acting out revenge now made the person as bad as the person/people who did the wrongful deeds in the first place.

The most important aspect to consider is the two greatest commandments given by Jesus Christ:

Matthew 22:36-40 36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37 And he said to him, You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'  38 "This is the great and foremost commandment.' 39 The second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.  40 Upon these two commandments hang the whole Law and the Prophets.

and when understanding and applying these two greatest laws to the parable of the man forgiven of a large debt, who then does not forgive a small debt of another in Matthew 18:21-35, will give us knowledge on the importance of forgiveness and not acting on revenge with the possibilities of:

The implication from Jesus Christ's speaking of the parable means God will hold us accountable for:

  1. Receiving forgiveness in countless sins, because of Jesus Christ's death on the cross, and
  2. Then not forgiving others. 

In the parable of the Matthew 18:21-25:

The key verses are 32 through 35, that should make all of us know of the paramount importance of forgiveness of everyone.

Matthew 18:21-35 21 Then came Peter and said to him, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? until seven times? 22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times; but, Until seventy times seven.

23 Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened unto a certain king, who would make a reckoning with his servants. 24 And when he had begun to reckon, one was brought unto him, that owed him ten thousand talents 25 But forasmuch as he had not wherewith to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made. 26 The servant therefore fell down and worshipped him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all. 27 And the lord of that servant, being moved with compassion, released him, and forgave him the debt. 28 But that servant went out, and found one of his fellow-servants, who owed him a hundred shillings: and he laid hold on him, and took him by the throat, saying, Pay what thou owest. 29 So his fellow-servant fell down and besought him, saying, Have patience with me, and I will pay thee. 30 And he would not: but went and cast him into prison, till he should pay that which was due. 31 So when his fellow-servants saw what was done, they were exceeding sorry, and came and told unto their lord all that was done. 32 Then his lord called him unto him, and saith to him, Thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou besoughtest me: 33 shouldest not thou also have had mercy on thy fellow-servant, even as I had mercy on thee? 34 And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due. 35 So shall also my heavenly Father do unto you, if ye forgive not every one his brother from your hearts.


Note on the "seventy times seven": There are references in some Biblical Commentaries that God held Israel accountable to missing the importance of resting on the Sabbath Day and following false gods during a 490 year period.  Because of the accountability, then the Biblical Commentaries state that God righteously had Israel in captivity for 70 years in Babylon.  The significance of the 490 is it the amount of "seventy times seven". 

It is the opinion of this author, as implied in a some Internet sources, that God absolutely uses exactness with numerical significance, Gematria, for many reasons unto God's Glory, where there are limits to Grace and Mercy in our lives.  The 490 number of occurrences does not mean we can put ourselves in the place of God to decide when not to forgive.  It should be obvious that it is impossible for us to have counted a specific sin, over a time period to verify it was done 490 times before allowing ourselves to act out revenge.

Daniel 9:2 in the first year of his reign, I, Daniel, understood from the Scriptures, according to the word of the Lord given to Jeremiah the prophet, that the desolation of Jerusalem would last seventy years.
Jeremiah 25:12 But when the seventy years are fulfilled, I will punish the king of Babylon and his nation, the land of the Babylonians, for their guilt, declares the Lord, and will make it desolate forever.

For more information on "Seventy times Seven", see the topic detailing Seventy times Seven.

Instead of Revenge

1 Corinthians 10:13 No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can endure it.

These are the only thoughts and remedies to take instead of taking revenge on anyone. 

  1. Revenge and consequences, for those who do evil against someone, is for God to administrate.  At 60 years old, it is utterly astonishing the consequences seen for how God handles justice for wrongs done by others.  We always need to remember:
    (a) That there is also the matter of loss of rewards in eternity that none of us should be losing.
    (b) All of us are not perfect and have the possibility of having done something in our life which others may be angry with us and want revenge. 
    (c) God administers Grace and Mercy in all of our lives.  The last thing we want from God is to exercise perfect justice on all of us.  As we mature in our Christian walk, we realize that we always need God's Mercy and want God's Grace.
  2. Criminal activities and Civil disputes are to be handled by the established legal processes.
  3. The best revenge is to live our lives to the fullest that God intended which will give us the greatest rewards and happiness in this life and eternity! An additional way of thinking is the commonly heard expression "The best revenge is showing that nothing done by someone else has had any effect on you."
  4. Be kind and respectful in return to those who have done anything wrong against you or others.  This is always the correct thing to do and it will keep your consciousness clear of not repaying evil with evil.  Notice in Proverbs 25:21-22 that God also sees your correct actions and will reward you. 
  5. Understand that suffering, when not deserved, will always benefit the Christian in the long run.  It is absolutely amazing the benefits, rewards and love God rewards.  The topic on suffering explains this in further details.
Proverbs 25:21-22 21 If your enemy is hungry, give him food to eat; And if he is thirsty, give him water to drink; 22 For you will heap burning coals on his head, And the Lord will reward you.
Luke 6:27-36 32 If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them. 33 And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners do that. 34 And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, expecting to be repaid in full. 35 But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. 36 Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.

Remorse and Guilt

There are two types of remorse that results from knowingly doing something wrong, and also doing something wrong without knowing it.  In the scriptures, Saul who later becomes the Apostle Paul, is an example of someone doing evil and did not know it. 

Before Paul became an Apostle, he was known as Saul, a Pharisee.  Saul spent time trying to stop the Gospel of Jesus Christ from spreading by finding Christians and having them arrested, imprisoned and also stoned to death by the ruling body of Jews in Jerusalem.  Saul did this because he thought this was serving God with the belief that the Christians were breaking God's Laws that had penalties of death in the Mosaic Laws.  Saul did not know that Jesus Christ was the fulfillment of the Mosaic Law that pointed to Jesus Christ as the Messiah which Israel was awaiting.

The evidence in the scriptures shows that Saul deeply regretted his past actions against the Christians for the rest of his life.  The important point for us, when looking at Paul's example is how Paul changed his life.  As read in the Book of Acts, there were people who had good reason to distrust and possibly even hate Paul, such as Anaias who forgave Paul.  

Acts 7:58 and they cast him out of the city and stoned him. And the witnesses laid down their clothes at the feet of a young man named Saul.
Acts 8:1 Now Saul was consenting to his death.
Acts 8:3 As for Saul, he made havoc of the church, entering every house, and dragging off men and women, committing them to prison.
Acts 9:1-2 Then Saul, still breathing threats and murder against the disciples of the Lord, went to the high priest and asked letters from him to the synagogues of Damascus, so that if he found any who were of the Way, whether men or women, he might bring them bound to Jerusalem.
Acts 22:20 and when the blood of Stephen thy witness was shed, I also was standing by, and consenting, and keeping the garments of them that slew him.

As we know, the good news is Saul was personally witnessed to by Jesus Christ in a vision, and then became Paul the Apostle who wrote 14 of the New Testament Books (this assumes he wrote Hebrews, which the preponderance of information points to.)  Paul led his life, from that point forward, in a mission to witness to others about Jesus Christ, and Paul was profoundly cognizant of this mission to not be found unworthy of the calling and to maximize his rewards in heaven

When any of us act on revenge, there is the unknown consequences for the recipient of revenge that can temporarily or permanently stop the Work of God.  Revenge against someone has the potential to stopping someone from future great works for God.  

Conversely, if someone does not act on revenge, then they are not interfering with God handling judgment under Grace and Mercy.  Additionally, the person not acting on revenge can be part of the rewards from God because of the possible Godly accomplishments of someone that did will receive revenge.

Acts 9:3-6 3 And as he journeyed, it came to pass that he drew nigh unto Damascus: and suddenly there shone round about him a light out of heaven: and he fell upon the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: but rise, and enter into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.
Acts 9::17-18 17 And Ananias departed, and entered into the house; and laying his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, who appeared unto thee in the way which thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mayest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Spirit. 18 And straightway there fell from his eyes as it were scales, and he received his sight; and he arose and was baptized; 19 and he took food and was strengthened.
1 Corinthians 9:27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

The desire for all of us sometimes is have others feel and understand the pain they caused.  This is truly not possible in life even if someone says they actually can feel and understand.  The best that we can do is feel empathy for someone else's pain when we have shared a common painful experience at the hands of someone else. 

When we can emphasize with someone in pain, then we can try to help others that are experiencing pain.  If we are a victim, then God will often guide us to others to help us which have gone through the same types of suffering.  This author during times of being a victim has experienced help from others, who has gone through similar circumstances, many times when I needed it which was so amazing to recognize God was behind the help that could not have been coincidence. 

To often, many of us have used or heard the comment about someone seeking revenge: "I want them to feel the pain that I felt by doing to them what they did to me."  It is impossible to ever make anyone feel like we have felt or know if they feel any of the same pain.  As pointed out above in the section on Victims, this should never be attempted.

Our emotions in life often lead us into temptations and doing wrong.  One of the best examples of extreme emotions that may contain guilt, is to consider adultery in a marriage, from both sides. 

This is an excerpt from relationships topic. 
  1. While an affair is going on, the adulterer will rationalize many reasons and justifications for continuing where this will overcome guilt.
  2. When the affair has recently ended, the adulterer for a period of time, will usually not feel any remorse but can have confused thoughts on whether or not the affair was worth the time along with possible future consequences.
  3. After time has gone by, even if the adulterer does not love their spouse, then most adulterers will eventually feel guilt and want to clear their conscience and be forgiven.  This is not the type of remorse that the victim is desiring because the adulterer just wants their victim to accept their apology and get forgiveness.
  4. Psychology states that a person will not be able to sustain guilt or remorse for any type of wrong done to another human being because this takes energy which requires a catalyst to keep the guilt or remorse active.  The different types of wrong catalysts for creating remorse in an adulterer are:
    (a) If the victim leaves the adulterer and the adulterer wants the victim back in a relationship with them.
    (b) If the adulterer is facing consequences from children, parents, friends and even a job.
    (c) If the adulterer is near death and fears a judgment from God.
    (d) If the adulterer is suffering consequences from God that the adulterer knows they are consequences from adultery.
    These are still not the type of remorse that a victim is initially desiring.
  5. The closer the Christian adulterer gets to emulating, comprehending and desiring the love for Jesus Christ and His teaching, then remorse for adultery and any sins that we all commit against others will cause grief, sympathy, empathy, concern and embarrassment.  This is the type of remorse that most victims, initially desire.  Conversely, as Christians mature, they will feel joy when others are happy, and especially when they make someone else happy in a Christian way.

Wanting Righteous Judgment

There are times, when we need to call upon God to help us with forgiveness, with those who have done wrong against us.  When this happens, we may also have the desire to see God judicially cause a consequence to someone, people, a business or even a country for wrongs done to us and others. 

The entirety of the scriptures, with parts discussed already in this topic, lets us know that we are to forgive always so that we can be forgiven.  Is there an acceptable circumstance to pray for Righteous Judgment against someone?  The answer requires a mature viewpoint where a prayer must be for:

otherwise, the requested prayer should not be done.

There are two scriptural examples of many when righteous indignation, a judgment was asked and God acted against those who have sinned against God and people.

1 Timothy 1:20 Among these are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have handed over to Satan, so that they will be taught not to blaspheme.
Revelation 6:9-10 9 When the Lamb broke the fifth seal, I saw underneath the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God, and because of the testimony which they had maintained; 10 They cried out with a loud voice, O Sovereign Lord, holy and true, how long before you will judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?

The incident in 1 Timothy 1:20, is when Apostle Paul turned over Hymenaeus and Alexander to Lucifer.  This is a righteous judgment example for these two men because they were teaching that the Resurrection of the Saints had already occurred, and there would not be a bodily resurrection for those who remained, which was hurting the newly formed congregation of Believers. 

All Christians are protected by the Holy Spirit and also guarding angels, where if we didn't have this protection then the Satanic Forces in the world would do everything in their power to destroy us and our witness.  Paul was releasing them from this protection so that their actions would stop, they could hopefully have a correction in their thoughts and also stop sinning against God.

In the Tribulation Period, the people who accept Jesus Christ will have Salvation, but they will suffer and most of them will lose their life.  When they are in Heaven, they will ask God how long before they would be avenged by God as read in Revelation 6:9-10.  These people who had been slain have righteous indignation and a desire for God's Holy Name, that they accepted, to be avenged.  This is acceptable question for them to ask and desire.

Forgive Ourselves and Others

The Apostle Paul struggled with forgiving himself and that is a possibility for all of us when we do anything wrong.  We must forgive ourselves and others so that we will have peace within ourselves and righteousness with God.

2 Corinthians 2:10 But to whom ye forgive anything, I forgive also: for what I also have forgiven, if I have forgiven anything, for your sakes have I forgiven it in the presence of Christ;
Ephesians 4:32 and be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving each other, even as God also in Christ forgave you.
Colossians 3:13 forbearing one another, and forgiving each other, if any man have a complaint against any; even as the Lord forgave you, so also do ye:
1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
Hebrews 10:17 And their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

God Judging of the Fallen Angels and Demons

The following is an excerpt form the "Confound the Wise" topic:

It is fascinating to read the scriptures on how God handles judgment with all human-beings in life and also at the Judgment Seat of Christ and Great White Thrown of Judgment.  At the Great White Thrown of Judgment, Jesus Christ will judge the Fallen Angels and Demons with their destiny to the Lake of Fire.

Throughout the entirety of the scriptures, God is demonstrating His Perfect Wisdom in all things for us to see and know.  In 1 Corinthians 1:27-31, the "confound the wise" means to surprise the wise who will recognize the brilliance of God through God's methods.  God does not use revenge but instead uses ramifications of evil against those who do wrong that includes the Fallen Angels.

1 Corinthians 1:27-31 27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; 28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are: 29 That no flesh should glory in his presence. 30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption: 31 That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.

When Lucifer lead the Fallen Angels on the attempt to usurp God, as described in Ezekiel 28 and Isaiah 14, then their action initiated a perfect plan to fully expose:

  1. The intentions in the usurping attempt by Lucifer with the Fallen Angels, and later the Demons that are disembodied Nephilim.
  2. The destruction caused by the failed usurping attempt.

Because of the failed usurping attempt, this caused a wonderful redemption and rewarding to God Himself, the Good Angels, and all human-beings with Salvation that would not have been possible if Lucifer had not initiated the failed usurping attempt.  It is important for us to recognize God is exercising His perfect method of Justice without revenge.  This is often called the "Purpose of All History" that also applies to God's Angels.

In the entirety of the scriptures on God's plan for handling the long-term ramifications against Lucifer, Fallen Angels, and Demons that are all destined to the Lake of Fire, then we recognize absolutely that God will also administrate justice at a specific point with evil done by human-beings.  As one example is in Genesis 15:16 regarding the Amorites which were doing evil:
 
Genesis 15:14-16 14 But I will also judge the nation whom they will serve, and afterward they will come out with many possessions. 15 As for you, you shall go to your fathers in peace; you will be buried at a good old age. 16 Then in the fourth generation they will return here, for the wrongdoing of the Amorite is not yet complete.

Examples like the evil of the Amorites can teach us to release the desires for revenge knowing God will have ramifications occur against evil.  Also, God's Perfect Love will protect us and give us Rewards now and Eternity for absolutely all undeserved suffering.  All suffering will have the opposite effect of harming us even unto death, when we don't react with revenge, so that we will be better off because of the suffering!
 
Matthew 5:12 11 Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you, and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. 12 Rejoice and be glad, for your reward in heaven is great; for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you

Method to Handle People that may Provoke Revengeful Thoughts

There will be occasions that we will have to be interacting with people who we have problems, and potentially varying amounts of emotional anger because of actions they

This author, as most likely all Christians through out their entire life have experienced because of us being targets of Satanic Forces, many incredibly painful periods that were never caused by something I have done.  As stated earlier in this topic, when we let God handle the situation, then evil done to us will have the exact opposite consequences for the Christian who was acting righteously.   

In the Tribulation Period, anyone

  1. Who murders will be murdered in the same way. 
  2. Who enslaves, abuses, tortures, mistreats anyone will be have the same done unto them.

God has chosen to the Tribulation Period to give an exact and almost immediate retribution for cruelty and murders as a witness of God's authority.  God did not suddenly start the process of reaping and sowing negatively during that period of time, as it has always been God's method and God's governing of the Earth. 

Revelation 13:10 He who leads into captivity shall go into captivity; he who kills with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

For the Christian who sins, we can go to God for Mercy and make restitution to avoid and with even potentially eliminating repercussion suffering in our life.

When this author had to deal with people that were and still evil doers against me, I recall the method to give them no power over me.  I ignore the person as if I am dealing with an ambiguous person.  When the person is a position of power over me, then I respect the authority of the office held even if I don't respect the person.

The following is an excerpt from the Abuse of Power topic dealing with people that are in position of power over others:

If any of us are visiting the office of the President or Prime Minister of a country, we should and would most likely feel honored even if we didn't like the person holding the office.  In our thought process, we would know that we respect the office and position no matter the person at that time. 

This is how we should see every single job from the lowest ranking position to the highest, and the person holding the position is worthy of respect.  We can never know the full plan for God for anyone where experiences in many years of living will often reveal people, who may have meager wage earning professions, but when we get to know the person then we admire this person with expectations of great rewards in Eternity because the very evident Jesus Christ guided life that is real without pretentiousness. 

It has been at a few times in this author's life that have been hillarious, with glory to God, when seeing how people that have done evil towards me:

The scripture of Romans 12:9-21, is amazing advise.  God expects us to act righteously towards evil doers, and the righteous actions will have the consequence of the analogy of hot coals falling on the evil doers head.  Consider a jury in a court case, who are impartially acting righteously, will have evil doers respecting the jury even if they do not like the outcome of a trial.

We need to know that God loves us.  We can think of the additionally analogy of a family with children. If one sibling mistreats his brother or sister in a cruel way as the parent sees the event, then the parent is going to discipline the bad son daughter, and comfort the victim son or daughter.  God is far superior to any parent and absolutely handles all sins in a righteous way that gives Glory to God.  When we all are the Judgment Seat of Christ and also watching the Great White Thrown of Judgment events, we will see God's perfection in Judging Righteously.

Romans 12:9-21 9 Let love be without hypocrisy. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good. 10 In love of the brethren be tenderly affectioned one to another; in honor preferring one another; 11 in diligence not slothful; fervent in spirit; serving the Lord; 12 rejoicing in hope; patient in tribulation; continuing stedfastly in prayer; 13 communicating to the necessities of the saints; given to hospitality.

14 Bless them that persecute you; bless, and curse not. 15 Rejoice with them that rejoice; weep with them that weep. 16 Be of the same mind one toward another. Set not your mind on high things, but condescend to things that are lowly. Be not wise in your own conceits.

17 Render to no man evil for evil. Take thought for things honorable in the sight of all men. 18 If it be possible, as much as in you lieth, be at peace with all men. 19 Avenge not yourselves, beloved, but give place unto the wrath of God: for it is written, Vengeance belongeth unto me; I will recompense, saith the Lord.

20 But if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him to drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire upon his head. 21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.

Two additional scriptural references/  We also know that by our actions of being righteous in God's accountability then:

  1. We might be a witness to an evil person that causes them to become a Christian.
  2. We will be taken care of all situations of our needs in life.
Matthew 6:25-34 25 Therefore I say to you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink; nor about your body, what you will put on. Is not life more than food and the body more than clothing? 26 Look at the birds of the air, for they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they? 27 Which of you by worrying can add one cubit to his stature?

28 So why do you worry about clothing? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow: they neither toil nor spin; 29 and yet I say to you that even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. 30 Now if God so clothes the grass of the field, which today is, and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, will He not much more clothe you, O you of little faith?

31 Therefore do not worry, saying, What shall we eat? or What shall we drink? or What shall we wear? 32 For after all these things the Gentiles seek. For your heavenly Father knows that you need all these things. 33 But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you. 34 Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about its own things. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble.
Romans 8:37 35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or anguish, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? 36 Even as it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; We were accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. 38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, 39 nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

There are sometimes in life that our actions could have diverted a tragedy.  This author heard of an incident concerning a man who committed suicide by jumping off of Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco, California, USA.  When investigators went to the man's home, they found a suicide note that stated if only one person smiled at him when he walked several miles to the bridge then the man would not commit suicide. The little acts of kindness, such as a smile or bring peace to someone who might be a evil doer, can be a life changing event.

Evil Doers become Victims of their Exact Same Evil

For those who do evil toward us, that can include a person who once was a friend or a loved one, when they do evil toward us they will fall victim to their own exact sins.  This, as explained throughout this topic, and is God's Perfect Law of Sowing and Reaping.  Let God reward you for your suffering by also letting God handling all justice where history in the scriptures such as Hayman shows God administrates exact, perfect justice, and those who suffer receive blessing from God that include rewards in Heaven

We must act civil, potentially helpful, peaceful, and absolutely fair to our enemies and those who hurt us (Romans 12:17-20), if it is possible without injury to yourself where this may be part of God's plan to firmly show the person that hurt us, and others, acted wrongly against us, others, themselves, and most importantly against God.  As Proverbs 26:27-28 informs us to know, God will have evil being done by anyone resulting in two additional points that requires the evil person to seek God:

  1. Evil done results in evil of the exact same kind being done to the perpetrator.
  2. The perpetrator will stupidly and foolishly justify their evil actions in their mind their actions by hating their victims along with having no regard for the victims wellbeing.

Proverbs 26:27-28 27 Whoever digs a pit will fall into it, and a stone will come back on him who starts it rolling. 28 A lying tongue hates its victims, and a flattering mouth works ruin.
Deuteronomy 32:35 Vengeance is Mine, and recompense; Their foot shall slip in due time; For the day of their calamity is at hand, And the things to come hasten upon them.’
Romans 12:17-20 17 Render to no man evil for evil. Take thought for things honorable in the sight of all men. 18 If it be possible, as much as in you lieth, be at peace with all men. 19 Avenge not yourselves, beloved, but give place unto the wrath of God : for it is written, Vengeance belongeth unto me; I will recompense, saith the Lord. 20 But if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him to drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire upon his head. 21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.
Esther 7:10 So they hanged Haman on the gallows that he had prepared for Mordecai. Then the wrath of the king abated.

(Hayman had prepared the gallows, for impaling Israelites unto death, which God had Esther act righteously causing Hayman to suffer death by his own device.)
Galatians 6:7 Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows.
Matthew 25:40 And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.’
Proverbs 11:25 Whoever brings blessing will be enriched, and one who waters will himself be watered.
Matthew  5:6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness (justice), for they will be filled.

What to read next?

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