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| 1 | Definition |
| 2 | Secular Beliefs |
| 3 | See the Face of God and Live? |
| 4 | Has God the Father's Face been Seen? Is there Thrones? |
| 5 | Occurrences in the Scriptures of a Theophany |
| Hebrews 13:2 | Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for thereby some have entertained angels unawares. |
The Old Testament Scriptural Source Text, was copied with a precise diligence where scribes would destroy any scroll parchments that had errors in them. Additionally, when a scroll parchment became old and weathered, there was a special procedure taken to destroy it so that only the highest quality scrolls were ever in use.
The incorrect belief is the first use of the word Theophany was in the ancient story of Lliad, estimated to be written in 1280 BCE, and then used in Greek mythology such as the Epic of Gilgamesh. Along with the Scriptural significance of the Nephilim, it is the belief of many Biblical Scholars that the Greeks adopted their Greek Mythological gods from the historical Nephilim. Additionally, it is the belief of many Biblical Scholars that the Greeks most likely adopted the Hebrew style of numerical values for letters in their alphabet. Therefore, any Greek writings concerning their mythological gods as Theophanies would most likely have also come from the knowledge gained in history from the true God. Note also that the adoption of the word, by no means, diminishes the significance of the appearances of Jesus Christ in the Old Testament.
| Exodus 33:19-23 | And he said, I will make all my goodness pass before you and will proclaim before you my name The Lord. And I will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will show mercy on whom I will show mercy. But, he said, you cannot see my face, for man shall not see me and live. And the Lord said, Behold, there is a place by me where you shall stand on the rock, and while my glory passes by I will put you in a cleft of the rock, and I will cover you with my hand until I have passed by. Then I will take away my hand, and you shall see my back, but my face shall not be seen. |
| John 3:13 | 13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven the Son of Man. 14 Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up, 15 that everyone who believes may have eternal life in him. 16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. |
In the times the Jesus Christ appeared and talked with people, was as a Theophany. Jesus Christ appeared as human being where He represents Himself, God the Father and God the Holy Spirit. Jesus Christ is not God the Father or God the Holy Spirit. Jesus Christ is the "Son of Man" as one of many Titles.
In the vision of Isaiah 6:1-6, there is image of God the Father seen by Isaiah. In Daniel 7:9-10, the prophet Daniel's vision informs us that there is a second Throne for the Son of Man which is Jesus Christ!
Scriptures that establish the image of God the Father seen but not His Face, and also a second throne for Jesus Christ are:
| Exodus 24:9-11 | 9 Moses and Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, and the seventy elders of Israel went up 10 and saw the God of Israel. Under his feet was something like a pavement made of lapis lazuli, as bright blue as the sky. 11 But God did not raise his hand against these leaders of the Israelites; they saw God, and they ate and drank. |
| Isaiah 6:1-5 | 1 In the year of King Uzziah’s
death I saw the Lord sitting on
a throne, lofty and exalted, with the train of His robe filling the
temple. 2 Seraphim stood above Him,
each having six wings: with two
he covered his face, and with two he covered his feet, and with
two he flew. 3 And one called out to
another and said, “Holy, Holy, Holy, is the Lord of hosts, The whole earth is full of His glory.” 4 And the foundations of the thresholds trembled at the voice of him who called out, while the temple was filling with smoke. 5 Then I said, “Woe is me, for I am ruined! Because I am a man of unclean lips, And I live among a people of unclean lips; For my eyes have seen the King, the Lord of hosts.” |
| Daniel 7:9-10 | 9 “I kept looking Until thrones were set up, And the Ancient of Days took His seat; His vesture was like white snow And the hair of His head like pure wool. His throne was ablaze with flames, Its wheels were a burning fire. 10 “A river of fire was flowing And coming out from before Him; Thousands upon thousands were attending Him, And myriads upon myriads were standing before Him; The court sat, And the books were opened. |
| Daniel 7:13-14 | 13 “I kept looking in the night visions, And behold, with the clouds of heaven One like a Son of Man was coming, And He came up to the Ancient of Days And was presented before Him. 14 “And to Him was given dominion, Glory and a kingdom, That all the peoples, nations and men of every language Might serve Him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion Which will not pass away; And His kingdom is one Which will not be destroyed. |
| Mark 14:61-62 | 61 But He kept silent and did not answer. Again the high priest was questioning Him, and saying to Him, “Are You the Christ, the Son of the Blessed One?” 62 And Jesus said, “I am; and you shall see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power, and coming with the clouds of heaven.” |
| Revelation 1:7 | Look, He is coming with the clouds," and "every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him"; and all peoples on earth "will mourn because of Him." So shall it be! Amen. |
| Revelation 20:12-14 |
12 And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, according to their deeds. 13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead which were in them; and they were judged, every one of them according to their deeds. 14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. |
Note that it is very important for us to know that the scriptures do not give an exact description of Jesus Christ when He entered His Creation as a Human to fulfill the roles of taking on the sins of the World and the fulfillment at the Crucifixion. Jesus Christ's face and other attributes are described in Revelation 1:13-16 when Jesus Christ is on His Thrown. See the topic on Pictures of Jesus as a Human and should they be used?
| Revelation 1:13-16 |
13 and in the middle of the lamp stands I saw one like a son of man, clothed in a robe reaching to the feet, and girded across His chest with a golden sash. 14 His head and His hair were white like white wool, like snow; and His eyes were like a flame of fire. 15 His feet were like burnished bronze, when it has been made to glow in a furnace, and His voice was like the sound of many waters. 16 In His right hand He held seven stars, and out of His mouth came a sharp two-edged sword; and His face was like the sun shining in its strength. |
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Scripture and the Person being Visited |
Passage
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Theophany |
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Genesis 12:3 Abram later becomes Abraham |
1 The Lord had said to Abram, Go from your country, your people and your father s household to the land I will show you. 2 I will make you into a great nation, and I will bless you; I will make your name great, and you will be a blessing. 3 I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you. 4 So Abram went, as the Lord had told him; and Lot went with him. Abram was seventy-five years old when he set out from Harran. | Yes |
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Genesis 17 (entire chapter)
Abraham
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1 And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, Jehovah appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am God Almighty; walk before me, and be thou perfect. 2 And I will make my covenant between me and thee, and will multiply thee exceedingly. 3 And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him, saying, 4 As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be the father of a multitude of nations. 5 Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for the father of a multitude of nations have I made thee. 6 And I will make thee exceeding fruitful, and I will make nations of thee, and kings shall come out of thee. 7 And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee throughout their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee and to thy seed after thee. 8 And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land of thy sojournings, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God. | Yes |
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Genesis 18:1-3 Abraham |
1 Then the Lord appeared to him by the terebinth trees of Mamre, as he was sitting in the tent door in the heat of the day. 2 So he lifted his eyes and looked, and behold, three men were standing by him; and when he saw them, he ran from the tent door to meet them, and bowed himself to the ground, 3 and said, My Lord, if I have now found favor in Your sight, do not pass on by Your servant. | Yes. The two Angels go on with Abraham and Jesus Christ departs. |
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Genesis 22:1-2 Abraham |
1. Some time later God tested Abraham. He said to him, Abraham! Here I am, he replied. 2 Then God said, Take your son, your only son, whom you love Isaac and go to the region of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on a mountain I will show you. | Appears Yes |
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Genesis 32:28-30 Jacob |
28 And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for thou hast striven with God and with men, and hast prevailed. 29 And Jacob asked him, and said, Tell me, I pray thee, thy name. And he said, Wherefore is it that thou dost ask after my name? And he blessed him there. 30 And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for, said he, I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved. | Appears Yes |
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Joshua 5:13 Joshua
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13 Now when Joshua was near Jericho, he looked up and saw a man standing
in front of him with a drawn sword in his hand. Joshua went up to him
and asked, Are you for us or for our enemies? 14
Neither, he replied,
but as commander of the army of the Lord I have now come. Then
Joshua
fell facedown to the ground in reverence, and asked him, What message
does my Lord have for his servant? 15 The commander of the Lord s army
replied, Take off your sandals, for the place where you are standing is
holy. And Joshua did so. Note: Is the Book of Joshua a small model of the Book of Revelation? This also helps in verifying Jesus Christ as a Theophany appearance in the book of Joshua. This author first heard this from Chuck Missler and agrees with Chuck's beliefs. |
Yes, because an angel would never allow himself to be worship |
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Judges 6:11-18 Gideon |
11 Now the angel of the Lord came and sat under the terebinth at Ophrah, which belonged to Joash the Abiezrite, while his son Gideon was beating out wheat in the winepress to hide it from the Midianites. 12 And the angel of the Lord appeared to him and said to him, The Lord is with you, O mighty man of valor. 13 And Gideon said to him, Please, my lord, if the Lord is with us, why then has all this happened to us? And where are all his wonderful deeds that our fathers recounted to us, saying, Did not the Lord bring us up from Egypt? But now the Lord has forsaken us and given us into the hand of Midian. 14 And the Lord1 turned to him and said, Go in this might of yours and save Israel from the hand of Midian; bdo not I send you? 15 And he said to him, Please, Lord, how can I save Israel? Behold, my clan is the weakest in Manasseh, and I am the least in my father s house. 16 And the Lord said to him, But I will be with you, and you shall strike the Midianites as one man. 17 And he said to him, If now I have found favor in your eyes, then show me a sign that it is you who speak with me. 18 Please do not depart from here until I come to you and bring out my present and set it before you. And he said, I will stay till you return. | Appears Yes |
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Daniel 3:25 Nebuchadnezzar speaking. |
He answered and said, But I see four men unbound, walking in the midst of the fire, and they yare not hurt; and the appearance of the fourth is like a son of the gods. | Appears Yes but could be an Angel also. |
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